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PA Block Bolts

A somewhat common problem we find when rebuilding Meyer E-47, E-57, and E-60 plow pumps is the bolts holding the PA Block to the Sump Base are stripped. Not the thread portion, but rather the Allen head of the bolts. While these bolts are not torqued super tight during assembly, they can be tough to get loose due to galvanic corrosion. The galvanic corrosion occurs due to dissimilar metals being put together. In other words, a steel bolt is threaded into the aluminum casting that is also used as a ground for the electric motor. What we find is that the heads of the PA Block Bolts tend to corrode far more than the thread portion of the bolts. Years ago I went as far as going to a machine shop next door, and having the heads milled off the bolts, thinking the block would come right off. Nope. We still had to beat the block loose with a rawhide mallet, and it put up a good fight!

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The corrosion on the heads of these bolts wedges them tight in the cavities. The most important thing to keep in mind is that the E-47/E-57 (and E-60) Sump Bases are still available. The PA Block is not available new from Meyer. You would have to buy their latest PA Block (which will bolt right on) for $800+. On top of that you would need a wiring adapter because the E-58 style PA Block has 2 wire coils with Deutsch connectors, and the old style has single wire coils with bullet connectors. You would also need hose adapters because the E-58 PA Block has different threads in the hose ports (SAE vs. NPT). We currently sell the E-47 / E-57 Sump Base for $127. The E-60 we sell for $179. Personally I would buy a rebuilt or used unit before I would spend $800 on a part. The above Sump Base was damaged during a previous rebuild (don't know the history, the base was cast in 1984) so we had to get the PA Block off to put on the new Sump Base. We used a cut off wheel on an angle grinder to cut through the PA Block Bolts being careful not to gouge or damage the PA Block itself.

When we rebuild pumps in our shop, we always try to remove the PA Block, but, if the bolts seem like they are going to strip then we leave the PA Block on. Why? Because it is not imperative that it be removed during a rebuild. The only benefits to removing it during a rebuild are that you can change those 3 little O Rings you can see in the pic, and it will be easier to remove the bolts again at a later date. I have never seen one of those little O Rings in the above pic blow out, or leak, unless somehow the PA Block Bolts came loose, and if that is the case, then there is no problem getting the bolts out. A reason to have to remove the PA Block would be to inspect it for cracks in the filter port casting, which would be indicated by a pretty severe fluid leak between the Sump Base and the PA Block. When that is the case (severe leak) 90% of the time the Sump Base is cracked, and needs to be replaced anyway. The other 10% of the time the leak is due to one of the steel balls that are pressed in after drilling the passageways in the PA Block blowing out.

The best preventative measure we have found that helps is applying a liberal coating of Neverseize to the PA Block Bolts. The ENTIRE BOLT. Another step you can take is from time to time (twice a year) spray Fluid Film liberally into the 4 cavities in the PA Block where the PA Block Bolts are.

As far as getting out the stripped bolts, we have tried heat (aluminum is an awesome heat sink) which just wasted gas and time. We tried pounding a Torx bit into the bolts with no luck. Tried using a "hand ground to fit" Metric Hex bit with no luck. Not only is stripping the head of the bolts a concern, so is breaking the Hex bit when trying to remove stubborn bolts. When it comes to hand tools, we use mostly cheap tools, but when it comes to Hex bits for this application, we use well known professional brands (you won't find at a big box store) only. A T handle Allen key will not be enough to get these bolts out if they are corroded.



Parts discussed on this page:

   Meyer Power Angle Block w/Valves OEM

SKU: M15757

Meyer Power Angle Block w/Valves OEM

Brand new OEM Meyer Power Angle Block includes all valves. This is an OBSOLETE PART. We are selling a few of these due to demand. We will not be doing this ever again, period. ****TWO LEFT AS OF 6/1/11****


Manufacturer: Genuine Meyer�

Meyer E-47 / E-57 Sump Base

SKU: M15573

Meyer E-47 / E-57 Sump Base

Meyer E-47 and E-57 Sump Base. Meyer part#15573. Replace your damaged or cracked base with this new OEM Meyer part. Comes with Drain Plug, Filter Plugs, and Filters.


Manufacturer: Genuine Meyer�

Meyer E-60 Pump Housing / Sump Base

SKU: M15682

Meyer E-60 Pump Housing / Sump Base

Brand new OEM Meyer E-60 base. Replace your cracked base. These replacements do NOT have a bottom drain plug, or filters, or filter plugs. They are BARE CASTINGS. They just came in direct from Meyer without a drain hole on the bottom.


Manufacturer: Genuine Meyer�

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